Spooky new video urges Georgia voters to reject Gov. Deal’s state takeover of schools

This new video in opposition to Gov. Nathan Deal’s state takeover plan is certainly dramatic. I’m not sure this spare, spooky approach will work in persuading voters to reject the constitutional amendment giving Deal the power to take over failing schools. Voters face the question in November.

However, the video links viewers to a Georgia PTA page, which explains the amendment in greater detail.

The PTA link brings viewers to a critique of Deal’s Opportunity School District. Among the criticisms cited in the presentation: The vague language of the amendment, the transference of school funds, assets and control to a superintendent appointed by the governor, and the marginalization of parents in the takeover process.

Take a look at the new video and tell us what you think.

 

 

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eulb
eulb

Are you sure the PTA created this video for the purpose of convincing voters to reject the OSD amendment? From where I sit, it looks like something that OSD advocates would create to mock opponents as illogical fearmongers.  The spooky music and dripping sounds with that black-&-white ink-blot test background screen are so exaggerated, the film becomes funny.   I truly thought it was a parody/spoof of the PTA until I clicked on the "learn more" link, which led straight to the PTA's real website.

The PTA's vimeo presentation on that webpage is much better.  It's drama-free with no sound effects, just a reasoned, point-by-point critique of the proposed OSD.



MaureenDowney
MaureenDowney moderator

@eulb  I think the PTA presentation is much more effective -- at least for me. But I think people are quite different in their reactions to this video as I have had people tell me it is brilliant.


L_D
L_D

@MaureenDowney @eulb  The PTA's webpage is publicly available.  Is it possible some other group created the video and just linked to the PTA page because of the resources there? 

eulb
eulb

@MaureenDowney  "... I have had people tell me it is brilliant."  That's a surprise!  My reaction is exactly opposite.  I was already opposed to the OSD before seeing this video.  I'm still opposed despite this strange video.  If I were on the fence, this video would tip me toward the pro-OSD side.  I think it makes the anti-OSD camp look nutty,  which has the effect of making the pro-OSD camp look more reasonable.

MaryWalker
MaryWalker

Bravo to whoever made this video. It does the job, which is to get people to look further and see what this amendment does. I am so glad to see organized opposition to this crony scheme hatched by Deal and his for-profit educational buddies. 

dg417s
dg417s

I've made my opposition to the takeover bill known on this blog many times.... doing something in the name of doing something isn't the answer...

That being said, I don't think this ad is the way to properly educate the voters that Governor Deal wants to bring failure to Georgia disguised as helping children. Vote no and let's bring everyone to the table to really reform education in Georgia.

eulb
eulb

@MaureenDowney The misspelling was here:  www.myajc.com It's been corrected.  

MaureenDowney
MaureenDowney moderator

@eulb @MaureenDowney Thanks. It is very hard to track an error on a headline elsewhere given the AJC now has a mobile site, a free site, a paid site, a news Facebook page and a MyAJC.com education page. And AJC Get Schooled has its own Facebook page. 

speccie
speccie

For decades the national PTA has worked with teachers' unions to oppose education reform. I'm sure the video was scripted by union writers.

Your local school's teachers, by the way, are pressured into joining the PTA because of the dues kickback schools receive if 100% of staff sign up. Principals then get more spending money and the organization gets inflated membership numbers which help it push the anti-reform agenda.

It's the national PTA which is deceptively named.

Astropig
Astropig

@speccie


The whole debate about the language of the amendment is based on a rhetorical sleight of hand.If a Democrat had been elected in 2014,no amendment of any type that was designed to reform education would ever see the light of day.There wouldn't be any debate because there wouldn't be any amendments to debate.


Governor Deal made education reform part of his re-election platform.He went to the legislature and asked them to approve his plan.They did so in a bipartisan vote.Now he's asking the voters to approve that same plan.It would be hard to imagine a more democratic process,but the eduacracy and the media are calling this a power grab!


I'd ask the PTA beggars at their next recruitment drive to stop spending money on consultants and advertisements and start buying some copy and toilet paper for their schools.

bev1972
bev1972

@Astropig @speccie A look at other systems that have attempted school reform shows some of the best success comes from district reform efforts, not from state takeovers. District reform, supported by the state, is already in progress. I looked at what communities and leaders in New Orleans had to say about their state's takeover. I've read articles with results from Tennesse's state takeover. I took each school indicated as a success directly from Students First's website, then looked at the school to see whether it was part of the state takeover. Hmmm, they were district related. Georgia's proposition gives NO control to the district. Georgia's proposition places ultimate control in the governor's hand. Who's to say what governors we will elect in coming years and whether education will be their area of expertise?

Astropig
Astropig

@bev1972 @Astropig @speccie


The districts are the problem.They let these schools get to the state of dysfunction that some entity has to shake them up.Again, the adversarial relationship between the governor (elected to serve all citizens) and the educrat kings and queens(obsessed with keeping their power and control) has made compromise impossible.I, personally, would prefer something like the plan that Nebraska is going to try,which targets the worst schools and limits their number,but alas,the political climate in Georgia won't allow that,thus,there has to be a winning position and a losing one,so here we are.


More on Nebraska's plan-http://www.omaha.com/news/education/nebraska-education-board-approves-tailored-plans-to-improve-state-s/article_a9618eb4-5b6e-11e6-87cd-2fbca621f545.html

L_D
L_D

@Astropig How is this different from what is currently happening in Georgia under OCGA 20-14-41?  There is a group within the Department of Education that works to turn around struggling schools in much the same manner as outlined in the article you posted.  Why do we need an amendment if state law already allows the same interventions?

Astropig
Astropig

@L_D @Astropig


The Nebraska plan severely limits the number of schools to a handful.If passed, that's the way that I would like to see the OSD take schools into its orbit-a few at a time.This would allow the state to focus narrowly on the hardest cases and keep schools eligible for takeover but not yet taken over from getting too lazy.Just the threat of an OSD takeover has lit a fire under a couple of districts that sorely needed it. 

DrPohl
DrPohl

"Spooky" is right! Such pure scare tactics without clear information don't belong in any discussion about education.

Does the state have any record of being more effective at educating disadvantaged students than regular schools? If there were such data it would be important to examine it critically. It's urgent that something be done for kids in failing schools. If the state knows how to do that, why not share that knowledge with the target schools and give them a chance to implement it? However, no educational approach can overcome the underlying problem of kids growing up in impoverished and often dysfunctional families. We need drastic economic reforms before any educational reforms can work.

Astropig
Astropig

@DrPohl


"Spooky" is right! Such pure scare tactics without clear information don't belong in any discussion about education."


True. It's also ironic because I'd make a large bet that PTA participation in these failing schools is minuscule.The PTA should stay the hell out of politics.

jaggar1
jaggar1

@Astropig @DrPohl Politicians should stay out of the schools and parents should be making the decisions. The reason we have failing schools is due to failure of parents. The new APS superintendent made it clear that she can't help if parents won't step up

Astropig
Astropig

@jaggar1 @Astropig @DrPohl


When schools stop taking public tax money,politicians should stay out.


Educrats want to take credit for the good schools and blame politicians for the bad ones.Teachers want to take credit for the good students and blame parents for the bad ones.

EdJohnson
EdJohnson

@DrPohl “[N]o educational approach can overcome the underlying problem of kids growing up in impoverished and often dysfunctional families.”

Yes, but more importantly, no educational approach should add to the underlying problem of kids growing up in impoverished and often dysfunctional families, as does Atlanta new superintendent and school board’s “School Turnaround Strategy” that is nothing short of a full embrace of Obama’s continuing violence directed at destroying public education via his new agent, John B. King, Jr.

That, in contrast to Vermont State Board of Education rejecting John King and the violence.

DecaturRags
DecaturRags

People should be scared of this initiative. I wonder what for-profit company connected to Deal is going to get the contract? When the for-profit starts editing text books who is going to stop them? When the for-profit starts paying a hefty CEO salary who is going to put the brakes on? Everyone said MARTA was beyond repair. Look at what some solid leadership can do.

MikeHassinger
MikeHassinger

@DecaturRags "When the for-profit starts editing text books who is going to stop them?" I had no idea that textbook publishers were non-profits. 

Astropig
Astropig

@MikeHassinger @DecaturRags


"I had no idea that textbook publishers were non-profits. "


Good point. They're not. "Profit" is another loaded word that is designed to incite hatred of any entity bigger than our own self.The maker of the above video did it for profit.The words you are reading are published for profit (although newspapers are not making any these days). Nothing wrong with a profit because it (usually) reflects the value added at each stage of production.Without profit,public schools would be impossible to sustain.

Astropig
Astropig

Won't make any difference.This still passes.Only a small,small percentage of voters even know that this will be on the ballot in November.Many will see it for the first time in the voting booth and will approve it.


The PTA is making the same mistake that many others have made-they are trying to turn their personal hatred of Nathan Deal into political power.The political graveyard up here in North Georgia is chock full of Democrats that have tried that and Atlanta is starting to fill up fast. He's like the roadrunner in the old cartoons and the Dems (and the media) are the coyote.


Beep!Beep!


Starik
Starik

@Astropig How does a governor become wealthy on a governor's salary?

Astropig
Astropig

@Starik @Astropig


Like I stated above,personal hate for Deal has been a waste of time.The voters have passed judgement on him many times and he's still around,so I'd try another tactic-but that's just me.