Proponents of Opportunity School District and state takeover unveil their TV ad

Opponents of the Opportunity School District rolled out their first TV ad Tuesday. Today, proponents responded in kind, delivering a new TV plea to voters to approve the OSD.

Both sides are escalating the battle over the OSD, which will be decided by voters in November. Championed by Gov. Nathan Deal, the OSD is patterned after state takeover models in New Orleans and Tennessee. The amendment on the ballot would give the state broad new powers to take a school away from a local district if that school has underperformed by Department of Education measures for at least three years. The school could face several options, including being closed, reconstituted or turned over to charter school management.

The model has seen more success in New Orleans, where the school system essentially was reborn after Hurricane Katrina than in Tennessee where there has been more community resistance to takeover and staffing changes.

In this new ad, Georgia’s GOP governor lets a Democrat do a lot of the talking. The ad features state Sen. Freddie Powell Sims of Albany, a former educator who backs state takeover.

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AvgGeorgian
AvgGeorgian

The state already runs its own school system - The State Charter School Commission's schools. These schools are mostly failing or close to it, but the Charter Commission refuses to close them - even when they fail to meet their on charter goals or CCRPI.


The taxpayer money given to these schools is hidden from the public and spent in secret. You can't find out where the money goes for these schools like you can for real public schools.


The OSD seems to shaping up to be only a money and jobs program for the politically connected.


Again - there is no plan; if there was, the state would use it on their own failing charter schools.

Starik
Starik

@AvgGeorgian What about the failing school districts?  "Real" public schools...are they better about transparency? If poor children had better schools and better teachers from Pre-K to graduation from high school we'd have a better handle on which reforms work and which do not.

sneakpeakintoeducation
sneakpeakintoeducation

@Starik @AvgGeorgian


I agree that we could take a leaf out of Finland's book when it comes to teacher preparation. You won't find TFA or any other certification program here but you will find highly qualified teachers who are provided mentoring support and support from the administration. they are also provided with autonomy to teach and they don't have to teach to the test (no unreliable, unverifiable testing autocracies here). 

Astropig
Astropig

 Devastating.Simply devastating imagery for the status quo.I'd run this in a continuous loop until voters are in the booth.


Nothing more to say.

redweather
redweather

One thing I find somewhat disingenuous about the 68,000 number proponents bring up is that it represents slightly less than 4% of all public school students in Georgia.

There's no question that 68,000 is a big number, and I am not arguing that it is acceptable. But the OSD seems like the kind of measure a state would use when faced with a much larger percentage of students attending so-called "failing schools." 

The remedy doesn't seem to fit the illness. 


Astropig
Astropig

@redweather


Just curious-What number would you need to see to have the state act? 100,000? A quarter million? How many kids would have to go through their lives in menial,dead end jobs, jail or committing crimes for you to take notice? Because without a decent education,that is most certainly their future. 


Would think that there was some kind of problem if only 96% of passengers landed safely in airplanes every day? 

Starik
Starik

@redweather I'd wish they would expand the program to have state run failing districts. That would do a lot of good.

sneakpeakintoeducation
sneakpeakintoeducation

@Astropig @redweather  Astropig, Are you aware of Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs? If not, you need to read up on it and you will find that the neediest children that in these schools need more than an education.

redweather
redweather

@Astropig @redweather Nothing I have seen about the OSD suggests that after its implementation in Georgia public school students will no longer find themselves in menial, dead end jobs.

Starik
Starik

@redweather @Astropig Think of it as educational Obamacare - it could be a lot better but it's the best we can do at this time.

Astropig
Astropig

@sneakpeakintoeducation @Starik @redweather @Astropig


They're not "privateers".That's just union talking point boilerplate.They're teachers,administrators and principals.Your hysterics completely discredit any point that you try to make. I'm glad that the governor really called out ideologues like you the other day in his speech when he let you have it right between the eyes: He said (paraphrasing here) that if you want to keep these kids trapped in failing schools,just vote no.Bravo for him.He's telling it like it is,not backing down to the eduacracy and you folks are having your own thromboses.   


sneakpeakintoeducation
sneakpeakintoeducation

@Astropig @sneakpeakintoeducation @Starik @redweather What are you talking about? Of course they are privateers. To suggest otherwise is being willfully ignorant. Why else would hedge-fund managers and millionaires like the Walton's want a piece of the pie. Astropig, please tell us what you will gain from this since you are shoving it down our throat like it's all flowers and roses and we shouldn't be concerned about losing local control to profiteers.

dg417s
dg417s

Actually, students at one of the top schools in the state WILL be affected by the takeover - chances are, if this passes, DeKalb will have to divert money that would otherwise go to schools like DeKalb School of the Arts, Lakeside, Chamblee, Dunwoody, etc and send it to the unaccountable friend of the governor (and the schools he takes will get 3% less funding on top of that). What's to stop the state from redefining "failing" to a growth model that the top schools (Walton, GSMST, DSA, etc) cannot meet (i.e. 10% increase on CCRPI - but 10% would put these schools over the top). Don't say that can't happen either. No, Amendment 1 is a bad option. Vote no and force the General Assembly and Governor to look at what actually works versus doing something in the name of doing something.

dsw2contributor
dsw2contributor

@dg417s Speaking of Dekalb, I was recently told that during Dr. Green's first year, his school system LOST OVER THREE MILLION DOLLARS on paychecks sent out to people who were not school system employees.

I cannot comprehend how that could happen, but here is what I was told:  when Dr. Green demoted the former director of human resources (http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local-education/dekalb-schools-reorganization-means-demotions-new-/nphGy/), the school system stopped following internal controls that former HR Director had in place.  

Supposedly, one of the former HR Director's controls actually checked to make sure someone was a school system employee before allowing the school system to issue that person a paycheck.  Supposedly, the replacement HR Director stopped performing that check and then the Dekalb School System ended up paying out over $3 Million to people who were not --or were no longer-- employees before the current HR department realized there was a problem.

Astropig
Astropig

@dsw2contributor @dg417s



Wouldn't surprise me.The left used to have tons of "ghost voters". "Ghost Employees" is certainly not a stretch.Now if they could just get those "Ghost Employees" to go vote...Jackpot!

Falcaints
Falcaints

What is not being said is how the State is going to run these schools.  I feel that it will hire "for profits" to do the job thus guaranteeing a huge payout for someone.

Wascatlady
Wascatlady

@sneakpeakintoeducation @Falcaints No, there is no guarantee that ANY of the parameters won't change.  The tests could change, the way the CCRPI is figure could change (or it could go away), the cut score could change (instead of 60 it could be 70, for example).


It is subject to 100 different ways of including any public school in the state.  That is the beauty of agreeing to the CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.  How it is carried out can vary from the details we have now, as long as it is approved.


Beware, even you wealthy, high-achieving schools!  You WILL be affected in one way or another!


This proposal should scare the %$# out of every Georgian.

sneakpeakintoeducation
sneakpeakintoeducation

@Falcaints Precisely. Here is an investigative article confirming that the charter industry is open to fraud and waste. I understand that it talks about California but don't think it can't and won't happen here. Any protections that the public has over the charter industry in GA will be eroded over time. I also believe that the 100 schools could be altered to be the bottom 200 or 300 schools. There is nothing to stop this expanding. Also, no matter what system is in place, there will always be THE BOTTOM %. 


http://capitalandmain.com/the-fight-to-bring-transparency-to-californias-charter-schools-0912

kaelyn
kaelyn

Interesting. The woman with the coffee mug says she "can't imagine what those other parents have to go through." She also says it's "not going to affect those that are already doing well." The politician says a few obligatory lines, but it's pretty obvious (at least to me) who is being targeted.

Would have been more convincing if one of "those other parents" could have spoken in support of OSD.

speccie
speccie

The teachers' unions and George Soros will drop a ton of money here in Georgia trying to stop parents fed up with their indifference to failing schools.

Shame on them.

sneakpeakintoeducation
sneakpeakintoeducation

@speccie Shame on the governor for pushing failed policies on the people of Georgia and trying to do it in such a deceitful way through misleading wording in the amendment vote. 

Astropig
Astropig

@speccie @sneakpeakintoeducation



The argument about the ballot language is designed to de-legitimize the result.I haven't heard or seen one person making that argument even attempt to put forth a solution to the problems in these schools.

Astropig
Astropig

@redweather @Astropig @speccie @sneakpeakintoeducation


If they can already do this,then why on earth is the status quo fighting this?


Answer-Because the law can be challenged in front of one of the left's pet judges...A constitutional amendment,on the other hand,ensures that one activist judge can't keep these kids trapped in failing schools.


I think that the real bitterness being displayed by the eduacracy here is because Governor Deal has learned how to play the game a little better than they have.

sneakpeakintoeducation
sneakpeakintoeducation

@Astropig @sneakpeakintoeducation @speccie


So instead of being upfront, hide the true motive of the private takeover of a public good within the silver-bullet message that only follows us down the same path of failed policies. You, astropgig. have shown your unwavering support for a policy is because you will gain financially. 

Astropig
Astropig

@sneakpeakintoeducation @Astropig @speccie


Then just vote no.If it bothers you that much,just vote no.


The only thing I have to gain is a better school system for Georgia kids.Everybody else gains  from that also.You obviously get a paycheck from the status quo,so by all means,vote no.But be prepared for whatever the result of the election is,good or bad.

Astropig
Astropig

@sneakpeakintoeducation @speccie


I'm not wasting my time. You'd deny whatever I wrote anyway.Just go down and vote no. Now that Democrats can't vote the dead anymore,you'll need to take some live friends with you. A lot of them. Bring ID.

sneakpeakintoeducation
sneakpeakintoeducation

@sneakpeakintoeducation @speccie


Why the racial undertones and provocation? I also want to note that you have nothing except unadulterated love for a failed policy. I know you are a lawyer, as per previous posts. Are you in bed with Glen Delk or are you Glen Delk? That would explain a lot.

AvgGeorgian
AvgGeorgian

@sneakpeakintoeducation @speccie

Maybe you have hit the nail on the head Sneak. Astro very well could be Glen Delk or someone just like him. Surely no one would argue so publicly, poorly, and with no logic, other that someone who will make $$$$ from the amendment.

AvgGeorgian
AvgGeorgian

@Starik @sneakpeakintoeducation @speccie The state has the power to intervene in failing schools now but it doesn't because it has no plan to improve achievement. 


The OSD has no plan except to give the money and jobs to the politically connected. That is the reason for the takeover.

sneakpeakintoeducation
sneakpeakintoeducation

@Starik @sneakpeakintoeducation @speccie How does putting schools into the hands of the for-profit Our schools are for the public good-not for the hedge-fund managers and privateers to line their pockets and squeeze every nickel and dime out of the classroom for their own benefit.