Campus carry backlash: ‘If governor wouldn’t let guns in his office, they shouldn’t be in my kids’ classrooms.’

Caitlin Whitehead / SCAD

Note Friday night: The commenting tool on this blog was broken, and only comments flowing from Facebook were appearing. It is now fixed. Maureen

Parents are expressing disappointment over Gov. Nathan Deal’s decision to sign the campus carry bill today.

“By signing the campus carry bill into law, Gov. Deal has made the campuses of Georgia’s colleges and universities far more dangerous for students, faculty, and staff.  There will be an increase in gun deaths due to homicide, suicide, and accidents at Georgia’s Universities as a result,” said parent Carlos Moreno. “I personally am deeply concerned for the safety of my son and his classmates at Georgia Tech.  The mixture of stress, youth, impulsiveness, hormones, and alcohol present on college campuses is a recipe for tragedy.”

“As the parent of a rising second-year student at Georgia Tech, I’m appalled that Gov. Deal has bowed to the NRA,” said Carolyn Wood. “Georgia college presidents, the Board of Regents, and campus security officers were vocal in opposing campus carry legislation, as were untold numbers of Georgia parents. In vetoing incredibly similar legislation last year, Gov. Deal rightly recognized that college campuses have long been ‘sanctuaries of learning’ and that there was no place on them for guns,” said Wood.

Social media exploded with angry responses from parents, some of whom declared they will now not allow their high school students consider attending public colleges in Georgia.

Among the comments:

“If he wouldn’t let guns in his office, they shouldn’t be in my kids’ classrooms.”

“I thought he was a better man.”

“Omigawd….what century is this?”

“To hell with Gov. Deal. Maybe Georgia Tech will change the last line of the song.”

“Do none of these politicians have children in our universities? What is particularly sad, is that Gov. Deal knows better…. he just didn’t have the courage to do what was right.”

“We cannot, however, carry a gun anywhere on the grounds of the State Capitol or any other state building. No, there is a gauntlet of metal detectors and X-ray machines to guard against someone with a gun. But they will gamble with the lives of college students just to make a political point. Cowards.”

“Zell Miller’s legacy will be smarter kids. Nathan Deal’s legacy will be dead kids. History has a way of making sure of that.”

“I plan to talk my child during the break about transferring.”

But a few parents and students expressed support of guns on campus.

“Campus carry in other states has not resulted in the doom and gloom many of you are suggesting. Both my children graduated college and own Glocks and have had carry licenses since they were 21. I would have been glad to have had this law when they were in school and I am a retired teacher.”

“Why should the government take away the Second amendment right of a licensed adult gun owner because they are on campus? I say this as a non-gun owner.”

“Georgia Weapons License holders rarely commit crimes.”

“Before this bill I was unable to carry and unable to protect myself against those law breakers well now I can defend myself.”

Postscript: (Could not get this to publish in comments, which apparently are not working tonight for some reason.)

Some folks are confused where guns are allowed under House Bill 280 as signed by the governor:

Guns are allowed many places on campus — classrooms, dining halls, student centers, recital halls, coffee shops, study halls, campus quads, theaters and bookstores. They are banned in child care centers  dormitories, fraternity and sorority houses, areas where high school students attend class, disciplinary hearings, teacher offices and buildings used for athletic events.

The only classrooms where guns are banned are those with high schoolers present. Guns are also not allowed in high school career academies that may be located on a college campus. (There are a handful of those in Georgia.)

The bill lists the banned areas as:

Not apply to buildings or property used for athletic sporting events or student  housing, including, but not limited to, fraternity and sorority houses;

Not apply to any preschool or childcare space located within such buildings or real property;

Not apply to any room or space being used for classes related to a college and career academy or other specialized school as provided for under Code Section 32 20-4-37; 33 (iv)

Not apply to any room or space being used for classes in which high school students are enrolled through a dual enrollment program, including, but not limited to, classes related to the ‘Move on When Ready Act’ as provided for under Code 36 Section 20-2-161.3; 37

Not apply to faculty, staff, or administrative offices or rooms where disciplinary proceedings are conducted;

http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20172018/170679.pdf

 

 

 

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127 comments
Matt Gravitt
Matt Gravitt

It's slightly different having grown adults carry weapons into the governor's office, than adult teachers and staff carrying weapons to protect our children. Why would the governor want to allow a visitor to carry a weapon. He doesn't know if they hate him or love him. Let common sense take over here and don't just write a headline or make comments that do not contain rational thoughts. There will come a day that a school shooting was thwarted by a dainty, old teacher that chose to carry responsibly. Come to think of it, it may not happen at all, because now it's not considered a "safe zone" which means the criminals aren't guaranteed to be uncontested.

Laurie Ausley
Laurie Ausley

Gun-free zone at NRA convention, but not college campuses? Really?

Susan Smith
Susan Smith

So we can now have a shoot out on the side walks at GSU. It's coming. Who is going to do backpack checks to keep them out of class rooms and dorms?

Debra B Jones
Debra B Jones

Let's hope he visits one of those campuses and some crazed person has a gun and...

Alexander Raymond Ives
Alexander Raymond Ives

Ah, but it isn't about "letting" guns anywhere. A determined person will always find a way to get a gun somewhere. That is the reason armed and trained individuals should be nearby to react at a moment's notice.

Louise Frazier
Louise Frazier

Apparently the proponents of campus carry feel the kind of security that the legislature and the governor have is too expensive. I was told that in a post when I inquired about it. I think the word should be spread that there is an unwillingness to pay for that type of security for our young people attending Georgia colleges, but our lawmakers some how deserve it? I think if I had a child considering entering a George college campus, I would certainly take that into account.

RoyalDawg
RoyalDawg

The risk to the Governor is identical to the risk to the average student. Now THAT's logical.

Poor snowflakes.

Cameron Trammell
Cameron Trammell

Call Antifa so Atlantans have targets on their way to work.

Cameron Trammell
Cameron Trammell

How many stories are y'all gonna write on this??? Not that many are disappointed. Maybe 1/3 of those with voting rights are stunned but should it really be a surprise??? I mean Hillary lost and everything Dems do will lose, yes, even the district seats in Ga.

William Doe
William Doe

I know, let's not allow guns on campus. That will definitely stop the criminal elements from packing

Kevin O'Sullivan
Kevin O'Sullivan

Classic talking point, Bill. Next are you going to say something about s good guy with a gun?

William Hicks
William Hicks

If people get Carry permits they should be allowed to be carry everywhere, even Federal buildings!

Jeff Wood
Jeff Wood

How many law abiding, firearms carrying Americans killed out of pure malice yesterday? Dry your tears, snowflakes.. you're going to be ok.

Kevin Kitchen
Kevin Kitchen

I am a parent and I'm elated. I just wish it would allow in dorm guns too. Dorms are dangerous.

Jake Hardin
Jake Hardin

How many business offices have had shootings? I'll wait...

Bradley Kinsey
Bradley Kinsey

I think this is GREAT!! I can wait to see a video where some dumbass tries to shoot up a school and gets dropped by a concealed carrier.... it's going to be priceless. Well done Mr. Deal. Well done.

Tammy Mitchum Saffo
Tammy Mitchum Saffo

Or--you might see some innocent young person killed or injured by some overzealous wannabe hero.

Bradley Kinsey
Bradley Kinsey

Lol.. yea, that's always a possibility... but then again, how many headlines do you see where an "overzealous, wannabe hero" shot or injured somone? Unfortunately there are possibilities for both... 99% of gun related accident come from uneducated people playing with guns.... if you conceal carry, then you have to complete safety classes..

Ebonie Ogletree
Ebonie Ogletree

The NRA was in town last week... I'm sure they paid$$$ the governor a visit.

Jason Kesler
Jason Kesler

If you, too, would like to tell the Cowardly, Lyin' Gov. Nathan Deal what you think about this "campus carry" law, please do so at the following number: 404-656-1776.

Jason Kesler
Jason Kesler

: How very original and thoughtful. Is that all you've got?

T.D. Wade
T.D. Wade

Kind of a atupid question but I will ask anyway. If you can't carry in dorms, classrooms, and other common areas and you live on campus where will the students store their weapon?

Kevin Kitchen
Kevin Kitchen

You can carry in classrooms. At night, you'll have to store in your car or a locker if provided.

Robert Eagar
Robert Eagar

To tack onto that, most students over 21 years old (GWL eligible) live off campus, so storage is less of a concern.

Brian Horst
Brian Horst

How many of those 32 killed were unarmed?

Yvonne Miller
Yvonne Miller

Because politicians value their own lives above the lives of everyone else including our children.

William Doe
William Doe

I think the hopes are that the predators who tend to migrate near Georgia Tech and other campuses might think twice about robbing students who are walking down the street.

Kevin O'Sullivan
Kevin O'Sullivan

I've noticed that carrying guns in the Capitol is never in play. I wonder why that is.

Shaun Dakin
Shaun Dakin

#thanksnra #yesmanymore dead in America 88 today and every day #guncontrol now

Stephanie Peters
Stephanie Peters

I am totally for it. Get over it, if you can't trust your child w a gun you didn't teach them to respect the power behind it. Go to any podunk country town and you'll meet kids as young as five going hunting w their parents. Guarantee they ain't the ones going in and shooting up a campus.

Phillip Humphries
Phillip Humphries

If you were smart enough to see legal ccw people are not the ones doing the shooting.

Edward Eschete
Edward Eschete

if they could read they would know that guns are not allowed in the classrooms.

Karen Steelman
Karen Steelman

READ THE POS BILL HE SIGNED! Guns are NOT ALLOWED in classrooms, or on campus EXCEPT LOCKED IN CARS! You people are so easily manipulated by the press. Do you even have a working braincell???

Patty Hopper
Patty Hopper

Not true. Allowed in classrooms unless HS students are in class

MaureenDowney
MaureenDowney moderator

Guns are allowed in classrooms under the bill unless high school students are present. 

Donald French
Donald French

Buy your kids guns and teach them how to use them and shut up

Terrie Jennings Gamel
Terrie Jennings Gamel

Hell , he let people carry in bars!!! Yeah, let a bunch of people drinking have their guns in the bar!!??

Benjamin Skott
Benjamin Skott

If what you say is true, then you should be able to cite many instances of legal carry gun owners shooting people in bar fights. Give me one.

Terrie Jennings Gamel
Terrie Jennings Gamel

New carry law under Georgia Safe Protection Act, you can carry in a bar. The bars/ businesses have to decide whether guns are welcomed!!