Georgia freshman orientation: We have veggie options, late-night shuttles and guns

Along with learning all that Georgia Tech has to offer, parents of incoming freshmen are also learning that campus carry will be allowed. (Photo Georgia Tech)

Among the information parents are learning at freshman orientation sessions underway at Georgia public colleges, their 18-year-olds could be sitting next to armed classmates in classrooms, dining halls and tailgating parties.

Georgia’s infamous campus carry law goes into effect in eight days, permitting for the first time conceal carry on public colleges. The law cites a few places where guns will still be outlawed, including sporting events. However, guns will be permitted at tailgating events outside stadiums and sports venues.

That was made clear in the guidelines released by the University System of Georgia after the Legislature approved campus carry this spring and Gov. Nathan Deal signed it. (Deal signed the controversial bill despite the fact his office received 14,873 calls, emails and letters opposed to it and only 145 in favor.)

Here is part of the memo:

While current law already allows license-holders to keep weapons secured in motor vehicles, beginning on July 1, House Bill 280 will allow anyone who is properly licensed in the State of Georgia to carry a handgun in a concealed manner on property owned or leased by public colleges and universities, with some exceptions as explained below. It will not allow any other type of gun to be carried around campus; nor will it allow handguns to be carried openly. (House Bill 280 does not apply, however, to institution-sponsored events or excursions away from campus on property not owned or leased by a University System institution.)

The statute defines concealed as “carried in such a fashion that does not actively solicit the attention of others and is not prominently, openly, and intentionally displayed except for purposes of defense of self or others.” A license-holder therefore may carry a handgun while it is substantially (“but not necessarily completely”) covered by an article of clothing he or she is wearing, or contained within a bag (“of a nondescript nature”) he or she is carrying, or in another similar manner that generally keeps it out of the view of others.

There are a number of exceptions to the new law that limit the places on campus where handguns may be carried. Even license-holders may not carry a handgun into the following locations on college/university-owned or leased property:

  • Buildings and property used for athletic sporting events. This exception includes stadiums, gymnasiums and similar facilities in which intercollegiate games are staged (but does not extend to so-called “tailgating” areas where fans may congregate outside the gates of the sports facility). It does not extend to student recreation centers and similar facilities that are not used for intercollegiate games.
  • Student housing facilities including residence halls and similar buildings where students live such as fraternity and sorority houses. (Note that any housing that is not on property owned or leased by a University System institution is not covered by House Bill 280.)
  • Spaces – including any room, continuous collection of rooms or outdoor facility – that are used for preschool or childcare. In order to qualify, preschool and childcare spaces must have controlled access (meaning access via personnel stationed at the door or an electronic mechanism) limited to authorized people.
  • Rooms and other spaces during the times when they are being used for classes in which high school students are enrolled, whether through dual enrollment and programs such as Move On When Ready or through college and career academies or other specialized programs such as Early College. License-holders who want to carry handguns to class will need to visit the institution’s registrar or other designated employee, who after verifying their enrollment status will tell them which of their classes, if any, have high school students enrolled. Institutions shall not, however, keep any listing of those who inquire. (Note also that the names of enrolled high school students may not be revealed in accordance with applicable privacy laws.) It is the responsibility of license-holders to seek out this information and make themselves aware of which classrooms fall within this exception.
  • Faculty, staff and administrative offices. This exception includes offices and office suites occupied by faculty, staff and administrators but does not include more general public common spaces outside of those areas.
  • Rooms during the times when they are being used for disciplinary proceedings of any kind, including those regarding students, faculty or staff. These would include any meetings or hearings that are part of the University System’s or the institution’s sexual misconduct, student conduct, dispute resolution, grievance, appeals or similar processes.

Under the new law, it is a misdemeanor crime for a license-holder to carry a handgun “in a manner or in a building, property, room, or space in violation of” these provisions. Doing so also may be a violation of the institution’s student code of conduct and personnel rules. It will be the responsibility of those license-holders who choose to carry handguns on campus to know the law and to understand where they can go while carrying. Institutions will not provide gun storage facilities or erect signs outside restricted areas.

Each institution will need to review its campus conduct and weapons policies to ensure that they comply with these changes to the law. While House Bill 280 provides for specific exceptions where handguns may not go, it does not give individual institutions discretion to bar or further limit handguns on their campuses. Institutions therefore may not place additional restrictions or prohibitions on the carrying of handguns beyond those contained in the law. Neither should anyone else attempt to interfere with the ability of license-holders to carry concealed handguns on campus.

I must point out while legislators deferred to worried parents and prohibited guns in classrooms where high school students are dual enrolled, those teens can still be exposed to firearms in other places on campus — dining halls, student centers, recital halls, coffee shops, campus quads, theaters and bookstores.

Jeff Ploussard of Gwinnett County is the parent of two students at public colleges in Georgia. In this short piece, he urges Georgias to press the state to ban guns from tailgating events. Ploussard gives lawmakers the benefit of the doubt and assumes they will want to close what he calls the tailgate party loophole.  Legislators were made aware the law didn’t specify tailgating among the gun-free zones. It didn’t faze them.

By Jeff Ploussard

The University System of Georgia issued guidelines a few weeks ago for implementing House Bill 280, the so-called “campus carry” bill  signed into law by Gov. Nathan Deal.  Under the new gun law — for the first time ever — Georgia weapons license holders will be allowed to carry concealed handguns into classrooms and other places on Georgia’s public college and university campuses.

Notwithstanding the new law, several wise and sensible gun-free zones will remain on campuses and are specified in HB 280.  For example, handguns will continue to be prohibited in stadiums, arenas and other facilities used for athletic sporting events.  Unfortunately, according to the USG guidelines and in an apparent oversight by lawmakers, this prohibition doesn’t extend to the so-called ‘tailgating” areas outside these athletic facilities.

College tailgate parties typically revolve around the consumption of alcoholic beverages. Given the clear and well documented linkage between alcohol and gun violence, lawmakers will want to quickly amend the new law by keeping these “tailgating” areas gun-free in order to maximize public safety on Georgia college campuses on game days.

The new campus carry gun law is scheduled to take effect on July 1, and the first home football game tailgate parties for the University of Georgia and Georgia Tech are September 2nd and September 4th, respectively.  Now is the time to contact the powers that be to express your opinion and urge them to work together to close the “tailgate party” loophole as soon as possible.

Here is a list of the individuals and organizations that have the most financial leverage and political influence to expeditiously close the “tailgate party” loophole:

Nathan Deal (404-656-1776)

Board of Regents  (404-962-3049)

Your State Representative (Georgia House)

Your State Senator (Georgia Senate)

NCAA National Collegiate Athletic Association (317-917-6222)

SEC Southeastern Conference (205-458-3000)

ACC Atlantic Coast Conference (336-854-8787 feedback@theacc.org)

Closing the dangerous “tailgate party” loophole now will signal to thousands of citizens that their voices have been heard by our legislators and other stakeholders in Georgia’s system of higher education.

 

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Astropig
Astropig

Here's a student at a Georgia university that was killed,in his dorm,by another student,with a...Not a gun,but a knife;


http://www.ajc.com/news/local/roommate-admits-fatally-stabbing-georgia-state-student-the-heart/mkUclfJtct3NY4uzqKLxVO/


The killer only got 20 years.That's nothing.The murderer will be on the street in time to enjoy life,while the victim will be forgotten.But that's okay,because it wasn't a gun you see.You won't see this space reporting on stabbings (like the above) or alcohol poisonings or any of a dozen other ways that college kids can get killed.

Jon Tossoff
Jon Tossoff

I hope that the first time a white kid gets verbally dismantled for "white privelage" he pulls out a 9 and splatters his lib scum professor's brains all over the chalkboard.

David Clark
David Clark

That fact of the matter is for the entire life of little Johnny and little Sally's life they have sat next to licensed legal firearms carriers. For 18 years they have been in close proximity to law-abiding, licensed individuals; at the movies, in McDonalds, shopping at Kroger's, strolling in the park or visiting Uncle Bill and Aunt May's house. Besides hypothetical "what-ifs" please offer us up one scintilla of evidence in the nation where a licensed carrier has " gone rogue" on campus. Where was your fake indignation all those years Mr. Ploussard?

Astropig
Astropig

@David Clark 

Exactly.Best comment by far on this thread.Even some liberal hypocrite professors have admitted in these pages that they have carried clandestinely for years.I know for a fact that some students have (especially after the Virginia Tech tragedy),so these people's ignorance apparently has no stopping point.Thank you for pointing out something that needs to be acknowledged.

Rightofthepeople
Rightofthepeople

With all due respect to Mr. Ploussard, why should concealed carry be banned from tailgate areas? I have been involved in a few confrontations with drunk tailgaters in the past and wished I had my weapon with me. Things turned out ok, but had they turned violent, I would have been better able to protect myself from drunk hillbillies had I been armed. Unless UGA and GT plan to provide security in sufficient numbers at all tailgating areas to protect all tailgaters (impossible), the government should not prevent law abiding citizens the ability to protect themselves at these events.

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

Wait till classes start. This will have a chilling effect on classroom discussion of controversial topics. 


And UGA tailgating parties?? More dangerous than the so-called street dangers of an urban university.

Wascatlady
Wascatlady

@OriginalProf Especially with all the alums drunk and wanting to play kissy face with the young girls.

Astropig
Astropig

@Wascatlady @OriginalProf 

With all due respect,you two are crazy as outhouse rats.As we have seen over the last few months,relatively conservative people are far better adjusted and a lot less prone to violence than liberal, "tolerant" non gun owning criminal Pajama-Kids.


You WANT to believe your stereotypes,and then you make fools of yourselves by voicing them publicly.Grow up,do the research and you'll find that you don't have a clue what you're discussing.

alt.AJC
alt.AJC

Freshman orientation? How can this be, after we were assured in this column that parents and students would never ever, EVER choose Georgia schools if Second Amendment rights were recognized by colleges?

And is there any sign elsewhere of the mass murder or mayhem we were likewise warned of?

(Googling it turns up nothing but hot air.)

Astropig
Astropig

@alt.AJC


Silly you! Clearly,you didn't factor in the "do as I say and not as I do" aspect of liberalism.They are shabby hypocrites and this issue simply pulls the curtain aside for more to see.


Thousands of students that applied to UGA and GT got rejection letters and would happily step in and take the spots of the handful of students that were accepted and won't attend because of CC.


Meanwhile, (in another part of the SEC) the University Of Missouri is paying a dear price for their little set-to with liberal fascism.Enrollment is down and they are letting about 400 workers go because they allowed the snowflakes to run riot on campus back in '15.


http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/20170515/university-of-missouri-enrollment-to-decline-more-than-7-percent-400-jobs-to-be-eliminated


There are plenty of spots open at Mizzou,and (for the moment) they have no CC law there.

Tcope
Tcope

@Astropig @alt.AJC At the U of MO they have had to close several dorm buildings because of a lack of students. As a personal note, my son is a senior at a nice private school here in Atlanta. He was sent multiple expensive marketing pieces from the U of MO. I laughed at their persistence as we threw them in the trash.

Lee_CPA2
Lee_CPA2

From recent events, perhaps they should be warning students of professors wielding bike locks.  Or muslims wielding knives.  Or muslims driving vehicles.  Or the black crime rate which is exponentially higher than the white crime rate.

Nah.  Doesn't fit the AJC's politically correct, anti gun narrative.

Astropig
Astropig

@Lee_CPA2


Yep. I can guarantee you that more incoming freshmen will die in jet-ski accidents and drunk driving pileups this summer alone than will die in gun related accidents in 10 years at state universities.But there is no way to exploit those tragic deaths for political gain,thus...we're stuck with the above.

Intteach
Intteach

Unfortunately, it will take a student to get shot on campus and a lawsuit to bring attention to the fact that colleges are not providing a safe learning environment anymore.

bu22
bu22

@Intteach Like the Georgia Tech students who have been shot or victims of armed robbery over the past few years before this law was passed?  Or the females raped on campus?

Astropig
Astropig

@bu22 @Intteach 

I'm a lot more worried about BLM and Antifa than I am law abiding gun owners. They've proven themselves violence-prone lately.

Cutlass81
Cutlass81

Am I the only one that thinks it's stupid that they made it virtually impossible for faculty and staff to carry but not students? 

Astropig
Astropig

@Wascatlady @redweather @Cutlass81 

Wild eyed legal carry holders are not promulgating violence across our country right now.You people look like ignorant fools.I'm a lot more concerned about left wing violence than right wing mayhem.